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Published on July 30, 2018 By Uvah In Personal Computing

Its bad enough Win 10 gets screwed up with these 'updates' all the time. Now MS in its infinite stupidity is gonna take our desktops away. Add another bill to your collection folks 'cause MS wants to go full on subscription for Windows. If I want to rent a machine I'll go to Rent-A-Center. I shouldn't have to pay rent on the OS that makes it work too. That's just insane! 


Comments (Page 3)
on Aug 02, 2018

Oops. I didn't do that, it was Putin.

on Aug 02, 2018

Would...wouldn't...semantics. But a tin foil hat is sounding better every day. Even flat earthers are gettin' in on it. 

*no offense to those who think that stuff*

on Aug 02, 2018


Even flat earthers are gettin' in on it. 

Yes....I hear it's a global phenomenon ...

on Aug 02, 2018

RedneckDude

Neither Google nor Big Brother is spying on you via your webcam. Or your microphone. Threads like this amuse me.

It's not that they are spying on everyone all of the time, but if they want to spy on certain individuals the technology is there.... in their hands.

As for hearing things: I have this constant ringing in my right ear, and I'm sure it's the ghosts of peelers past telling me the time and that all is well.

For those who don't know what/who peelers were, they were people who walked the streets of early London at night calling out the time.... and: "And all is well" if there was nothing majorly wrong about.



Quoting Uvah,

Even flat earthers are gettin' in on it. 



Yes....I hear it's a global phenomenon ...

Well!  The bit of Earth I'm standing on right now is flat.

However, I can see some hills off in the distance....

Sooo, I'm guessin' the world ain't flat after all.    

on Aug 03, 2018

Even the professionals have had enough:

"Susan Bradley, an 18 year Microsoft MVP focused on Windows patching and patch management, has sent an open letter to Microsoft executives Satya Nadella, Carlos Picoto, and Scott Guthrie about the frustration Windows 10 users have when dealing with installing new updates. This letter includes the results of a survey taken by over 1,000 consultants and over 800 consumers regarding their experience with Windows 10 updates."

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-about-poor-windows-10-update-experiences/

What is more worrying than Microsoft destroying Windows is the deafening silence from politicians and big corporations.

Interesting German documentary (at least if you live in Europe):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duaYLW7LQvg

 

on Aug 03, 2018

Excellent post, anotherside, thanks.

The problem with Synofsky, Nadella, etc, is that they won't listen. They're perfectly aware about the problems and have been since the beginning, but they don't care - they ALL think they are Steve Jobs reincarnated and that they know better than their users.

In the case of Steve Jobs, this was actually true a lot of the time, but these guys are nothing like him, they're just some deluded and arrogant wanna-be's, all of them.

on Aug 03, 2018

JcRabbit

Excellent post, anotherside, thanks.

The problem with Synofsky, Nadella, etc, is that they won't listen. They're perfectly aware about the problems and have been since the beginning, but they don't care - they ALL think they are Steve Jobs reincarnated and that they know better than their users.

In the case of Steve Jobs, this was actually true a lot of the time, but these guys are nothing like him, they're just some deluded and arrogant wanna-be's, all of them.

       

on Aug 03, 2018

Could be a sign of collusion delusion.

on Aug 03, 2018

You all should keep one important aspect in mind.

YOU DO NOT OWN your copy of Windows. You purchased a license, which may be revoked at any time for various reasons. 

(From MS EULA:

Installation and Use Rights.

  1. License.The software is licensed, not sold.

This is pretty much the same for all software. 

If MS wants to change their product model there isn't much you are going to do about it.

Those talking up switching to Linux and Mac.. well.. good luck with that. If all you want to do is surf the internet then it will work fine. If you want to run applications, most worthwhile programs/games/ etc are written for Windows.

on Aug 03, 2018

License.The software is licensed, not sold.

This is pretty much the same for all software. 

Yes, the same way you don't own the story when you buy a book, just the media it is printed on.

If MS wants to change their product model there isn't much you are going to do about it.

You can vote with your wallets and switch to another OS. Oh, wait...

Those talking up switching to Linux and Mac.. well.. good luck with that. If all you want to do is surf the internet then it will work fine. If you want to run applications, most worthwhile programs/games/ etc are written for Windows.

Mac? Apple?! They're even worse than Microsoft. Latest from them.

So the only thing left is Linux... but people won't switch until it can run nearly all the games and applications they run on Windows - and developers won't develop for it until there's enough paying customers using it to make it worthwhile. Kind of chicken and egg situation.

But if MS keeps antagonizing their users and abusing what is essentially a monopolistic position the way they've been doing lately, I think eventually the balance will tip over - and when it does, the change will be swift and permanent, relegating Microsoft and Windows to the history books and as an example of what NOT to do.

on Aug 03, 2018

I know for a fact that Google has pretty much taken over the K-12 public school systems now. All that is really needed are some major business app developers to jump on a Linux bandwagon to start chipping away at the armor. But as you say.. it is indeed a Chicken and Egg situation..

on Aug 04, 2018


If MS wants to change their product model there isn't much you are going to do about it.

They may have the right to change their product model, but consumers have the right to reject it, and I believe quite a large number will.  Maybe a few yuppies will accept the subscription model, but long time Windows users will turn away in droves.  A one-off license is one thing, but a recurring monthly fee isn't something the majority will want.  I don't and just about everyone I speak to say the same, with many talking about going back to Win 7 Win 8.1 or even Vista. 

It won't matter that MS no longer supports these earlier OSes, users will beef up their security, and companies in that area of business will make a killing as they replace MS' patches, etc.  As Jorge said, MS' current business model is NOT the way to go and it will be relegated to the history books as a once powerful organisation that lost the plot big time.

Subscription models for software that people can live without is one thing.  However, a subscription model for an OS that runs the whole kit and kaboodle is another.  Fail to keep up with the subscription for Winstep Xtreme, for example, you can still use the software, you just don't get any updates or upgrades.  It's the same with most software subscriptions, but fail to keep up with the subscription for Windows and you're feched.... your PC has been turned into an expensive bookend and none of your software, subscription or otherwise is accessible.  And with so many millions of users coming from the lower end of the socio-economic scale, there's going to be a shitload of very expensive bookends worldwide

Nope, the entire idea is about greed, a grab for more of your cash, and total control over YOUR PC.... and world governments, not even the EU, will say/do nothing about it because total control suits their agendas.

on Aug 04, 2018

It makes me wonder, as companies fight for YOUR cash, and cut eachothers throats to get it, just how they will survive when you have NO MORE cash to take... because it has been eaten up by greed, rising costs and shrinking incomes.

When there's nothing left to take, what will they do then?

on Aug 04, 2018

RedneckDude

LOL....paranoia abounds. I know a lady who says she can hear microwaves and cell phone signals in her head and it's driving her crazy.

Neither Google nor Big Brother is spying on you via your webcam. Or your microphone. Threads like this amuse me.

Surely the simple solution to "the Government/Microsoft/Deep State/Whoever can see through my webcam/computer equipment" is to simply unplug it when you're not using it...Heck, take the batteries out if you really want to be sure. I don't have either so I got no worries at present. The nice NSA man tells me he's not spying on me. And to change my washing as it's just finished and to remember to salute the flag before I go to bed.

Or you can use a typewriter, which apparantly some people have, post-Snowden's revelations etc, actually done. 'Though constantly typing out a Minefield sheet and then playing by picking a square and tossing a dice to get 1-6 score where 6 is the Mine will drive you crazy in the end. And you'd have to buy actual cards to play Patience.

FWIW, I don't see any reason to trust Linux, etc any more than Windows. No less, either, of course, but my point is, if you believe they're all out to get you, that means everybody. The people you like - Linux, Firefox, Greenpeace, Saunders, Assange, Snowden as examples - may be on your side today, but who's to say what changes tomorrow will bring?

We're screwed.

 

on Aug 04, 2018

mrblondini

FWIW, I don't see any reason to trust Linux, etc any more than Windows. No less, either, of course, but my point is, if you believe they're all out to get you, that means everybody. The people you like - Linux, Firefox, Greenpeace, Saunders, Assange, Snowden as examples - may be on your side today, but who's to say what changes tomorrow will bring?

We're screwed.

Truth is: the human race is fucked.  There is little to no hope because those in the upper echelon have designed it that way.  Thing is, their narrow-minded greed; thrust for control over everything; reducing the lower echelon to rags and zero ownership actually defeats their own agendas/purpose.  Their quest for the ultimate power and wealth will leave them with nothing. 

History dictates this because the human animal will never change.  The upper echelon will always want more than is possible, and the lower echelon will never have the power or resources to combat it.  The Roman Empire fell bt the wayside because it never understood the distribution of wealth and power, the British Empire almost went the same way, save the sense of a few wise men who saw the error of their ways.

Now we have the US trying to emulate that which failed before them, having learnt eff all from the history of mankind.... and the EU thinking it has some kind of influence to control the outcome.  Neither will succeed because nobody ever learnt from the mistakes of those who fell before them.